monkey thats intresting???? My SE has a sigle seat unit!!!!! My R has the assosiated holes in the top for the pad and the strap (which i hacked off LOL) but the se is smooth one pieace center bit!!!! what about the SP ??? is that a single seat? or do you think someone somewhere has filled it in and painted it? Ill know soon enough as im taking the SE apart over the next few days (well fairing first)