Ok, so at this point im gona ask!!! What if it was removed? what would happen (apart from no nuetral light) to the ignition mapping in the PGM? as far as its concerned youd never select a gear???? intresting, And alos mat, i took it out and played with it, with ignition on and couldnt get the netrual light to come on, is this because it wasnt earthed? Cheers await an intreting (MAYBE SUPER MC21 POWER UP ANSWER NOT) answer