Yup thats a fair point, Im gona try first and try and keep it as honda as possiable. I know it slides into a rgv frame or a rs250 frame nicely But i would like to keep it honda, First job is to get the we bugger running. its been sitting for 2 years. the good news is the battery took a charge last night and the ignition came on this morning, so ill clean all the bits out and see if i cant get her running soon, Ill need some advice on how to store an engine as i cant see this being a quick project and dont wana let anything go dry, but im looking forward to it, never done anything like this before!!!! I rekon that if i can get it into a good frame that will be the hardest bit of the project!!!! the rest is money