Cheers Fontyyy you fill me with loads of confidence, perhaps im being a bit of a girl myself. I have tried a couple of methods with holding the bars and your right when trying to feel loose its much worse. Its probably just a setting up issue, I havent done enough miles on it yet to really try any suspension adjustents or even get a really good feel for the bike. (I wish it would just stop pissing it down and then i could use it) Once again thanks for the help all.