Gentlemen i watched a television program this week about British rail,in the 70,s when they couldnt get there act together,it took them a long time to get on top of things and sort out those immaculate trains and carriages,something we are all proud to travel on ,and cheap tickets to,so dont all gang up on him,it took BR 40 years to iron out a few mods and improvements,and like he says he has other more important things to prioratise,i think we shoud all be patient and wait for this bike come to fruitition,,PS Si Les gets his bus pass in Nov and i,m only 10 years behind him,so pull yer finger out or we may not get to see it, good luck jonmac, _________________ John