on a serious note, anyone know what it should go for, im not rich but if its going for a good price ill find the space! in the garage, mind you ill have to kick the SE over its hogging all the space at the mo.
It's worth a cheap punt, but it's not an original Rothmans SP paintjob, the NSR decal should be on the top fairing not on the inspection panel, it should say sports production and SP underneath too, the gold stripe on the seat unit is too low, it should run under the seat a bit and the wheels aren't Magteks so you've got to cast doubt on it being an SP at all.
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Man you have an eye, Bloody hell , I havent seen magteks so i have asked the question to the owner to confirm they are magteks! How can you tell Fontyyy?, I am the highest bidder at the mo! ive had a couple of pops but not hit his res, thats why i asked, So what he has is a se with a paint job and a sp sticker on the rear!
MMMMM maybe i wont have a punt then, already been burnt with one se already!
Magteks have the word magtek cast into the spokes. _________________ MC21SP Plaything
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Mate,
save the side on pic (the bigger one, not the thumbnail!) to your harddrive (right click, save picture as) then open it with the normal picture and fax viewer and zoom in on a wheel. You can clearly see it's got a ridge on the edge like a normal wheel, Magteks have got a flat rim like a push bike.
This is a Magtek and this is a normal wheel, see?
I don't believe there were any SE Rothmans jobs so what it is (I presume) is "just" a Rothmans paintjob on an SE. Check Jamies excellent history page here.
Neither my '28SE nor Monkeys '21SP say anything anywhere on the log book to prove they are what they claim to be, it's just presumption based on what it is, mine could be an R with an SE/SP motor, clutch, rear shock and SE forks for all I know and Monkey's could be an SE with Magteks.
Dave if you can see "magtek" in the spokes or more to the point catagorically state it's not there you do have good eyesight!
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fontyyy wrote: and the wheels aren't Magteks so you've got to cast doubt on it being an SP at all.
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yes they are look closely at the picture top right. did your enlarging thing and that rim is to pronounced not to be a magtek _________________ MC21SP - Roth-tax
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fontyyy wrote:Dave if you can see "magtek" in the spokes or more to the point catagorically state it's not there you do have good eyesight!
Heh heh, not quite, but I was trying to help RC46 when he questions the owner. The flat rim thing may be harder to describe, whereas the word Magtek isn't! _________________ MC21SP Plaything
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Mate, are you sure? That's the exact pic I say you can see they're not Magteks, I think you can clearly see a ridge, now look at a real one like this.
opinions anyone?
Oddly bikepics deleted the pic, I'll host it properly when I get home, don't have FTP details here.
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It could have be an original Rothmans SP that's had a stack which required the whole bike to be repainted, including the tank??
sh*t job of a replica repaint though too many subtle differences from the original that it makes it noticeable. _________________ Jerry Lai
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How much price difference would it make if it was a genuine Rothmans? If it was built an R, but has the SP stuff fitted, with a decent Rothmans job, would it still be worth substantially less than the genuine artical?
At the end of the day, I don't think there's a huge market out there for 15 year old two strokes, so we may be getting up tight about nothing... _________________ MC21SP Plaything
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I can't understand why people bid on things on ebay with 90% of the auciton left to go! madness... _________________ NSR300R - Why did i ever have a 250...
It's true, but in the end if they are ever worth anything it'll be the SP's in original form that fetch the £££. We'll see if they pick up again, I can't see the SP's going much lower than they are now.
Back in the late 80's early 90's I was a bit of a boy racer and mk1 and mk2 Escorts were the thing, RS2000 and Mexicos being the choice as the Cossie lump in the RS1600 and RS1800 was mega money to fix.
I had a mk1 Mexico, sold it for £800, a friend kept his (less desirable mk2 one) and restored to to original state, now - some 10 years later and he gets offered £7000 for it at a show this summer, thats near twice what it would have cost to buy!
My point is they (the RS rear wheel drive Escorts with 70's rally pedigree) had just about bottomed out value wise in the early 90's and the SP NSR's could follow a similar pattern in the future.
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, I havent seen magteks so i have asked the question to the owner to confirm they are magteks! How can you tell Fontyyy?, I am the highest bidder at the mo! ive had a couple of pops but not hit his res, thats why i asked, So what he has is a se with a paint job and a sp sticker on the rear!
too many subtle differences from the original that it makes it noticeable. 
