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mc16 barrel

Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:43 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

will a mc16 barrel fit on a mc18 r5k , if so will the power valves from the 18 fit the 16 barrel
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:46 am » Post: #2 » Download Post

Yes and no, in that order. Smile
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:41 am » Post: #3 » Download Post

I prefer matching barrels, but at a pinch, I'd put the '16 barrel (with its '16 RC valves) on, with the '18 head (If its not damaged) and just run it at that.
Scary news: My MC18, when I had the '16 barrels on it (MC18 heads, carbs and electrics), wasn't much slower than another NSR MC18 that was poking around Shocked . And I made up the ground under brakes Twisted Evil
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:48 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

Kieran wrote:
Scary news: My MC18, when I had the '16 barrels on it (MC18 heads, carbs and electrics), wasn't much slower than another NSR MC18...

That is scary! Wink

Unquestionably something wrong with setup of the other MC18; you can see that the MC16 will be a lot less powerful (maybe up to 10hp) just by looking at the shape of the ports. With the 18 heads and carbs, maybe the difference is knocked back to about 5hp, but that's still 10% on these little bikes.
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:34 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

did,nt realise the ports were so different , 10hp is a lot
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:38 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

Big corner missing off each exhaust port for a start. At a rough guess, I'd say a good 20% less area.

There's also a bit of a hike in compression on the later models, plus the use of bigger carbs. Lots of smaller things soon add up, but the porting is substantially different.

Here's a thought. The MC16 is rated at 45hp with no restrictions in ignition like the later models. The MC18's and MC21 are also rated at 45hp, but altering one wire on each model lifts them to at least 60hp (if the motor is in good normal serviceable condition). There certainly ISN'T 15hp in just carbs and standard pipes alone.
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:46 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

so heres a question, what would the benefit of putting mc18 barrels, head and carb on a mc16 be?
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Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:08 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

You'd effectively turn it into an MC18 and stand to gain around 15hp.

It's been discussed many times in previous threads as a simple bolt-on MC16 upgrade package.
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Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:06 am » Post: #9 » Download Post

ooops should have known. Decision time now...rebuild the r6k dry clutch and put it into the 21 rolling chassis or drop the top end onto the mc16 along with the mc18 pipes......hmmmmmmmm
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Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:07 am » Post: #10 » Download Post

It might have been that I was coming out of corners quicker...
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Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:21 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Remember the MC16 cases are slightly different to all the other models -- they are solid mounted like the RS.

You can swap the cases between models, but they will need a little work (i.e. spacers fabricated) to get them to fit. Solid mounts are the way to go for power, but it can make the bike feel harsh.
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