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SO ANYONE DO RAM AIR YET?


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SO ANYONE DO RAM AIR YET?

Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:08 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/nsr/bikemonth/may02.html

i really like this look
i wonder hoe much work pressurized airboxes would be with this style fairing

anyone try it yet?

might be a good thing
or a jetting nightmare..
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:37 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

From Maine ? Nice and cold right about now then.... Sad

I tried to run a pressurized airbox on a TZR250RR about 2 years back. At that time I didn't have dyno access readily available even though it turns out there was on nearby.
The problem was that I couldn't get the bike to run right and it was generally a right pain so binned the idea shortly after conception.

It's not so much the main jet settings but the slide spring rate and the needle taper that became so difficult to set up.

You can't use a dyno to prepare a stroker running a force feed system as you can't normally simulate the changing pressure - I presume some sort of pressure check valve would be needed. Spoke to Farnham about it and he said good luck and have fun.

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Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:06 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

I understand there are dyno shops that can force a 60mph gale to the intake? I just forget where.
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:34 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

Pressurised air boxes can be set up on dynos without to much trouble. There are a few things you have to do to the carbs to make them work but its not too hard. You can never simulate real road conditions but you can have some very good calculated guesses.

Some interesting points about pressurised air boxes is though that you wont see any gain really untill over 140mph, and once over that the gains around around 5% on peak power.

The main benifit of a ram air system is cool air. You almost also always find that the air box is lager than the stock item. Still air (the air inside the box) is theee most important thing for a race bike. This is why you will often see bikes with larger volume air boxes than petrol tanks! This is also the reason HRC list a type of air box for the NSR. Its to provide "still" air around the carbs not to keep dirt out. This is why open carbs out perform the cylinder type foam filters (there just isnt enough still air inside them).

If you ran a standard air box on a dyno and say for a giggle you got 100bhp, then swaped to a ram air box and got 105bhp, all it would show was that the stock air box was the restricting factor. Not that ram air has helped your bike.

I hope that makes sence.. but setting up a box isnt too hard if you wanna do it. One last fact. Ferrari claim a 3% increase in peak power with a pressurised system at 190mph! and how much money did they spend? It just shows how little is to be gained unless you are after every last 1/1000.

Good for poser points though so woohoo! come on everyone lets get making!
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