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Stubborn cylinder head

Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:21 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

Any suggestions on how to get this cylinder head off my MC16?

Got a top end rebuild kit from Tyga and so far haven't had any luck. Been using a rubber hammer as well as giving her a good pull. Have a set of brass punches but wanted to ask before using them as I don't want to damage the head as I plan on re-using it. Any Suggs?!

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Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:34 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

take the entire cylinder off with the head still stuck on the cylinder. This way you can get at it from behind the cylinder head.

use the old cylinder (padded a little) and a rubber mallet to help it out. also, soaking it with WD40, or something penetrating to help it out may be an option.
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:38 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

Thanks for the quick reply cgallant, Appreciate it, I guess I should clarify Very Happy al lil more though. What I meant by the cylinder head was the cylinder itself, sorry bout that. I'm having trouble getting the forward cylinder off, any suggs? Confused

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Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:15 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

has it seized?
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:08 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

NOpe, hasn't seized, just due
for an overhaul. Any suggs aside from what should've worked? (beating it with a rubber hammer)
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:16 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

well i would have suggested a rubber hammer but youve already tried it! if it still doesnt come off with some perserverence try putting the cylinder head back on and turn the bike over. the compression might shift it.
few years back id seized my yz250 absolutely solid and had the same problem. i ended up putting a strop round the head and attatching some chainblocks Laughing
hope you dont have to go to that extent
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:12 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

what you could do then is to use the cylinder head studs to "pull" the cyinder off the cases. Basically build a plate that has holes that the cylinder head studs can slide into. Attacht that plate to legs that reach down around the cylinder and meet on the case. Use the head nuts to "slowly" lift the cylinder off by tightning the bolts down a turn at a time for each nut.

So basically think of a bearing puller but for the cylinder.
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Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:13 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

o, but make sure your piston isn't stuck, as forcing the cylinder off could damage the connecting rod.
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:36 am » Post: #9 » Download Post

Worked like a charm! I used an old piece of steel and bent it in my vise, drilled a few holes like suggested and after a few extra cranks pulled the head right off the case. Then I jiggled it off.

Checked the crank thrust clearance once I got the piston off and its .59mm, so I'm very happy there's lots of life left in this little rocket.

Thanks again,

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Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:48 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

I had a similar problem getting the top cylinder of my '28, I used an old hammer handle (just a bit of wood really I guess) and hit that with the mallet rather than try to hit the pot in situ.
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:05 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

fontyyy wrote:... try to hit the pot in situ.


When did England start teaching something other then English in schools? Razz
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:28 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

cgallant wrote:
fontyyy wrote:... try to hit the pot in situ.


When did England start teaching something other then English in schools? Razz

Sounds more like an American bastardisation! Oops, I mean Americanism!! ROTFLMAO

Should read en situ

Oh, and message to Ken... Hit it harder! Very Happy But whatever you do, DON'T try lever it off. (Probably obvious, but you never know!)

It'll only be the gasket holding it all together, and possibly (but highly unlikely) some corrosion between the cylinder locating dowels and the studs. I will put my customary 50p on there being 1/2 the gasket left on the cylinder and 1/2 left on the crank case once it's all apart, just as if you had peeled it apart like a beer mat. You'll probably find someone "glued" the gasket in place with instant gasket several years ago!
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Sticky gasket

Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:45 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

Hi Andy,
yea that was the case, the gasket was definetely glued as well. Somebody was paranoid! I been scraping it off both ends with a putty knife using gasket remover. Slowing me down a little, but I'm not in a big hurry.

Thanks again folks,

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Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:14 pm » Post: #14 » Download Post

Hey it's not everyday we get an english lesson 'thrown in',we'll all be called cohorts before long. Laughing
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:28 pm » Post: #15 » Download Post

Well, we don't want the Forum sliding the way of the lower class marques, do we?! Laughing
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