NSR250.net Forums Logo: Honda NSR 250 Forums, Classifieds and Service Manual in English. Covering All Honda NSR 250 MC16, MC18, MC21 and MC28 models
NSR250.net Forums

#
 
#
 
Performance Engineering

  • NSR250 Forums Index ‹ NSR250R Discussion
  • Members Content
  • Members Garage
  • Subscription
  • Transactions
  • FAQ
  • Search
  • Register
  • Log in

Picking up bad vibrations...


Reply to topic   printer-friendly view
Page 1 of 1   Download Topic





2Smoke

 
Posts: 827
Joined: 18 Mar 2006

Location: Isle Of Anglesey
1987 Honda NSR250 MC16
    Send private message View user's profile
    Reply with quote  

Picking up bad vibrations...

Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:37 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

G'day Very Happy Went for a bit of a run on my old dog of an nsr250 mc16 yesterday, about a 100 miles with some mates, all on poncy 600's and my lady on her nc30..

In between parking up and waiting for the rest of them to catch up (seriously..) I was having a little bit of fun with the old smoker on the twisty welsh roads, as one does and aside from the horribly soggy suspension I noticed that she vibes like hell when at high revs, and is generally quite harsh especially when compared to my seized-on-the-way-back-from-the-mot Rolling Eyes rgv. Is this right? I had heard they were a bit 'raw' but am quite suprised how much it is.

Think every thing is in order, engine aint moving around and the crank 'sounds' ok from the outside. Whats a crank rebuild cost anyhoo? Are they a costly job?

Thanks
PT
Back to top


Chester362
Supporter - Titanium
Supporter - Titanium
 
Posts: 940
Joined: 19 Jun 2005

Location: Cheshire, U.K.
    Send private message View user's profile
    Reply with quote  

Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:46 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

The 16`s have solid engine mounts, no power sapping rubber mounts! That must make a difference.
Back to top


Andy
Site Admin
 
Posts: 11948
Joined: 19 Jan 2004

Location: Devon, UK
1991 Honda NSR250 MC21
    Send private message View user's profile
    Reply with quote  

Re: Picking up bad vibrations...

Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:46 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

2Smoke wrote:
...aside from the horribly soggy suspension I noticed that she vibes like hell when at high revs, and is generally quite harsh especially when compared to my seized-on-the-way-back-from-the-mot Rolling Eyes rgv.

...engine aint moving around...


That'll be because it's solidly mounted, like the RS. If it's moving about in the frame you have problems! Laughing

It may also be the reason it feels a bit harsh, especially if you modify it at all with MC18 barrels/carbs/pipes/ignition etc., as you'll be putting another 15hp or so through the chassis.
_________________
Andy.
NSR-WORLD.COM

Please keep all responses to Forum posts on the Forum so that others may benefit.

Please DO NOT PM me for technical advice. My time is precious, and you will probably receive a faster response on the Forum anyway.


Check us out on Facebook! Please "like" our page!
Back to top


2Smoke

 
Posts: 827
Joined: 18 Mar 2006

Location: Isle Of Anglesey
1987 Honda NSR250 MC16
    Send private message View user's profile
    Reply with quote  

Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:53 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

Phew.. I'll treat it to some tyres then, the 10 year old rubber thats fitted made for some interesting cornering yesterday! Laughing

Are the cranks hideously expensive to recondition like the later models? Just in case like Wink ...
Back to top


Deon

 
Posts: 164
Joined: 01 Jul 2007

Location: Perth, Western Australia
1990 Honda NSR250 MC21
    Send private message View user's profile Send e-mail
    Reply with quote  

Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:05 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

[The 16`s have solid engine mounts, no power sapping rubber mounts! ]
Just out of interest, please explain chester. Always looking to kick out power sapping things.
Back to top


Andy
Site Admin
 
Posts: 11948
Joined: 19 Jan 2004

Location: Devon, UK
1991 Honda NSR250 MC21
    Send private message View user's profile
    Reply with quote  

Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:12 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

If you have solid engine mounts, there's nowhere for the power to go but through the chain. With rubber mounts some of the engines power is absorbed as the motor twists in the chassis.

Think of walloping your thumb with a steel or copper hammer, and then a rubber one... sure, the rubber one will transfer enough energy to hurt, but not as much as the metal one, as the flex in the rubber will absorb some of the impact!

HRC engine mounts that are made from a stiffer rubber compound can be used on later bikes, or even better results can be had by turning up solid nylon mounts, but that's when the harshness starts to set in. The MC18, '21 and '28 all have a "torque link" between the motor and the swingarm too, to help reduce twist, but the MC16 doesn't need one because of the solid mounts.
_________________
Andy.
NSR-WORLD.COM

Please keep all responses to Forum posts on the Forum so that others may benefit.

Please DO NOT PM me for technical advice. My time is precious, and you will probably receive a faster response on the Forum anyway.


Check us out on Facebook! Please "like" our page!
Back to top


Neal

 
Posts: 900
Joined: 01 Mar 2009

Location: Scarborough
    Send private message View user's profile
    Reply with quote  

Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:12 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

So now i need to order some special engine mounts to beat Deon Exclamation
Back to top


Reply to topic   printer-friendly view
Page 1 of 1   Download Topic

NSR250R Discussion

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

  • NSR250 Forums Index
  • All times are GMT
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group


Hosted by NSR250dotNET © 2008 NSR250dotNET