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21sp motor in 21r


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21sp motor in 21r

Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:06 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

as the title sugests i've obtained an sp motor is it a straight swap putting it into an r??
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:10 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

As far as I know, yes. Only the clutch and barrels and heads and cool factor are different, not the mounting points.
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:17 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

Straight swap. Get to it Exclamation
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:33 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

whats different with the barrels & heads, am i getting more donkeys Very Happy
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:52 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

Some are longer and some are higher compression - can't remember which way round it is.
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:55 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

An SP will give more donk for your dollar......apparently.

SP barrels are taller than R.

SP heads have a smaller volume than R.

SP's have a much noisier clutch than the R.

Ere, you wanna put some oil in that Mister.
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:06 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

are the barrels etc interchangable?
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:22 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

Matt@TYGA wrote:An SP will give more donk for your dollar......apparently.

SP barrels are taller than R.

SP heads have a smaller volume than R.

SP's have a much noisier clutch than the R.

Ere, you wanna put some oil in that Mister.


Is that the same for the se? and how do you tell the diffrence? and what mick says will they swap around?

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Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:31 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

SE are as per R I think. Only the clutch changed.

You can swap them around, as all heads bolt to all barrels and all barrels bolt to all cases, but beware of fitting SP heads on R barrels as it will up the compression and cause problems unless you tune the motor to suit.
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:35 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

All heads & barrels are interchangeable for any particular model, but make sure you don't mix heads and barrels of different types, ie. "R" head on an "SE/SP" barrel.

Heads and barrels are identified by "H" or "L" castings in them. Use either a KV3L head with a KV3L barrel, or a KV3H head with a KV3H barrel, and you won't go wrong.

You'll have all the bits soon... a little detective work and you'll know what's what. It's not rocket science!! Smile
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:10 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

Ah! I only asked becasue i have the se (well now an R with se suspension) up for sale and if she dosent sell i might strip her down and sell all the bits but keep some spares for me.....always good to have spare barrels Very Happy Twisted Evil or i could fix the last few bits and have 2 21's Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Shocked
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:12 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

bummer i was planning on doing the hrc front head conversion on the cheap taking the rear head off the r and putting it on the sp.

looks like i'll have to leave it as is for now
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:12 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

Believe me man, its quite quick enough the way it sits! A cheap engine for you regardless of the type!
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:31 pm » Post: #14 » Download Post

nsrbelfast wrote:Believe me man, its quite quick enough the way it sits! A cheap engine for you regardless of the type!


lol, you're probably right mate, its just that i've got the tinkering bug now Very Happy Very Happy
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:35 pm » Post: #15 » Download Post

Did you get my text message mate?
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