After some days of hard working, I finally get all the info needed to hologate my future NSR250 on Spain.
I want to know if the RGV and the TZR were imported to europe oficially. I think so...
The beauty of the NSR is the posibility to build a real race replica, with tyaga components. I aim to buil a kato axo honda, but I'm love with the chesterfield yamaha YZR of Nakano... is a pity that yamaha left the TZR alone...
Can anyone give me prices for a good MC21 and mc28 se/sp? prices for a full nsr engine?
Thanks from spain! _________________ regards from Spain!
RGV250 VJ21 and VJ22 yes definately, not the VJ23 though.
TZR? Original parallel twin yes, not the rev cyl or v-twin ones though as far as I know, definately not bought into the UK anyway.
No idea what they go for over there, UK prices are around 2000 euros for a '21, maybe over 3000 for a '28 if you can find one.
I've never seen a good engine in one piece for sale. _________________ Please do not PM me technical questions, if you can't find it on the Forum start a thread
fontyyy wrote:I've never seen a good engine in one piece for sale.
No, the good ones are kept, it's only the bad ones we sell! _________________ MC21SP Plaything
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FJ1100 Sporting relic
GTS1000 oddball
The lkooking for a complete engine is to have spares here, in spain, where get spares of this bike is nearly imposible... importing directly from japan is an option,a s well...
I think that a 250GP category of road bikes should recover. 600 and 1000cc superbikes are ok, but very expensive, and its weight is too high... I'm 1,72m heigt and 58 kg of weight... so using an superbike on city usage is so hard... ligther bikes like 250gp racers is son enjoiable, fast and easier for peoples of my dimensions _________________ regards from Spain!
If you take the part numbers from this site to your Honda dealer, they should be able to order the parts for you.
If you can't get them from your dealer, Andy can get just about anything for you. _________________ MC21SP Plaything
BMW F800GS Bumblebee
Triumph 9551 Daytona Big boys toy
FJ1100 Sporting relic
GTS1000 oddball
Dave's right. I went to Honda yesterday and ordered a rear sproket (as both bike need one) on the off chance. The chap at parts said no its japanese we dont do them....!!! The Manager of the shop overheard it was for a NSR and he came wondering across, soon found out hes got a Mint near original NS400 and a MC18 Walk this way he said He had Micro Fich for just about ever import, found the part number and entered it as a LIVE order and hey presto it appeared. It arrived today it was in stock. Honda do have them but the important bit is THEY MUST DO A LIVE ORDER otherwise the computer will say the part number is invalid. So parts are easy to get hold off and as dave said Andy can get anything NSR drop him an email with the bits you need it will almost certinly be cheaper, My rear sproket was 48 quid around 75 euros
ALL official UK Honda dealers, regardless of what they tell you, can order NSR250 parts (or CBR250/400 or RVF400 or any other grey, for that matter)!
Way way back in the Dark Ages, when everyone except the enlightened few were complaining about grey and parallel imports, Honda realised they were missing out on a huge after-sales market, swallowed their pride, and issued microfiche to all authorised shops. If I remember correctly, my local shop had theirs around 1995, but it could've been sooner. _________________ Andy.
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once again, and saddly, spain is different... Local dealer can't order nsr parts. Things like brake pads and other bits that are in other imported bikes can be supplied...
Honda Spain tell me that onle one dealer, on Barcelona, can supply HRC parts, and that dealer can supply NSR parts, but at huge price!
Aftel all, I will go step by step, first resolving the homologation issues (they want make me to homologate the bike as single vehicle approval, but with gas contamination test, and this will be hard with that 2 stroke engine, so I will need to put a catalizator for the test...) And then, I will look to get spares, and build the race replica.
Regards.
Guillermo. _________________ regards from Spain!
can you not import one from the UK?? My parents took there Jeep to spain from the USA as it was easier to ship it there first and then bring it over to the UK....just a thought it would mean shipping or collecting a bike from the EU but i would have thought it would be cheaper and easier than your homologation. and as for HONDA, try again, they have a european database which is how i got my rear sproket, but unless you ask them to search for the part number as live it wont show up.
Ermmm, hello, just take the part number into the shop and ask them to order it. As has been covered, Honda Europe can source anything. _________________ Please do not PM me technical questions, if you can't find it on the Forum start a thread
Yeah it's true, if I ever order through a Honda shop, which is rare these days, I don't even bother telling them which bike it's for, and they usually don't ask if you give them the part number... _________________ NSR300R - Why did i ever have a 250...
In Denmark a EU noise test would cost around 1400 euro but a guy I found, charged me only 140 for a type approval from the german TÛV (its their MOT).
With the noise test and a japanese registration paper, I will be able to register the bike.
If you can find a cheap bike that has been registered a min. of 6 months in f.ex. UK, you can register it anywhere in the EU. You can use your bike for spares or trackdays.
If you must have a pollution test, maybe it can be had from Germany, as they used to demand that the bikes be equipped with a catalyzer.
These guys used to import NSRs but not anymore:
www.imt-guzzi.de
As for spares, buy them from Apex in UK or Tyga in Thailand. They can get them all. _________________ Poul
"If Life Gets Boring, Risk It!"
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EU is crazy... Yes, acording to UE laws and requirements of homologation forms and test, if you buy a bike or car, anywhere in europe, you don't need to homologate for a second time the bike, because is all redy homologated on spain.
Type approval of the TÜV is not valid on Spain, as the TUV isn't valid (is not road legal homologation) In Spain, bikes and cars from other countrys of the EU only can be used with out a new homologation if they have a CEE homologation test or a Spanish homologation test. Single vehicle approval should be make with the NSR. All of these is "official argument" of Honda Spain.
As long as I know, some people import not less than 50 NSR250 to Spain (one is the bike that appears in "featured bike" on this web page, as the robby rolfo replica of Frank Mitchell) So, I want to know what type of homologation the mae for the bike (perhaps a homologaton type...)
As well, as all of these things are trully hard to understand, and to make, I've contacted a bike magazine, to ask they for a solution...
Spares shouldn't be a problem then... Thanks folks!
Talking about the first of my posts, since I have a car bulder facility as my personal bussines (EgoSprint Automotive Engineering) and we work developing new cars and homologating new types of car, perhaps I will consider to build a road version of other hot 250cc race bikes in short term, let we see how can we get in order the NSR first _________________ regards from Spain!
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