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Is restriction bad??


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Is restriction bad??

Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:22 pm » Post: #1 » Download Post

Hi all i have a totaly standard mc21 45bhp, and was going to leave it that way to prolong it's life, but my question is if the ignition won't advance in the last three gears surley that is not good?? if ignition doesnt advance when it in the top of the rev range then the ignition must be retarded, will this do any damage in the long run??
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:36 pm » Post: #2 » Download Post

It wont do it any damage and as stock they are very tractable but...

Get in there and cut that wire!
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:40 pm » Post: #3 » Download Post

StephenRC45 wrote:It wont do it any damage and as stock they are very tractable but...

Get in there and cut that wire!

And that wont do any damage either!!!!!
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:59 pm » Post: #4 » Download Post

Splice it and ride it like you stole it!
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:01 pm » Post: #5 » Download Post

just worried about the splice airbox mod, as iv'e seen different thoughts of weather it needs rejetting or not, somone said there bike siezed after half mile because he just did the mod and nothing else, others say they did the mod and 2/3 of there mates and alls fine, would like to feel that power though!!
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:19 pm » Post: #6 » Download Post

You wouldn't have to do the air box mod. But once you've ridden it de-restricted you wont go back
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:22 pm » Post: #7 » Download Post

You should always and without fail check the jetting after any modification, but if I recall correctly the seized bike in question had race pipes fitted.

Just to put some more doubt in your mind, we've seen bikes (MC18 and MC21) that needed to go a tad leaner, bikes that needed to go a tad richer, and some that needed no changes, but they all saw at least a 15hp increase in power.
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:39 pm » Post: #8 » Download Post

Exactly,I would hate to seize it up, if I was to do the mod wiresplice and airbox how would I know if it is ok? I can do the plug chop but would that not be too late if there was a problem, as you do the chop after some hard rpm riding don't you?
Also could I just do wiresplice and leave airbox standard and reduce the risk?
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:42 pm » Post: #9 » Download Post

Well, logic says you delimit it and jet up a bit first!
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:50 pm » Post: #10 » Download Post

So I've read but some say its not always needed so that's why I was going to leave it standard just to be on safe side, not wanting to get into a jetting discussion but where would I get main jets from just incase I'm feeling brave??
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:54 pm » Post: #11 » Download Post

You can get them from Honda! Use the part number formula given in the tuning section of the main site.
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:01 pm » Post: #12 » Download Post

Will do but might just run it as is for this year just to get used to it. Does anyone else run a standard mc21 and intend to leave that way??
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Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:29 pm » Post: #13 » Download Post

Enjoy your bike mate!! If you want to feel the power then do the mod- if washing and detailing your bike, making sure everything is just perfect makes you happy then leave it standard.

No- one can make the decision for you, mine was already done when I bought mine and I'm already used to the power (10 days later) but objective now is to focus on handling to ensure Im able to use it the way it was intended... Power is nothing if you can't control it, maybe another avenue for you to consider while you still decide to cut or not Wink
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:08 am » Post: #14 » Download Post

I know what your saying, I'm lucky enough to have a zx10 as well so if I need to feel some power there it is, but there is nothing like a two stroke power delivery.can antonecshed any light on the airbox mod if I do the wire splice and leave airbox will that reduce the risk or is pointless doing one without the other? I am getting tempted I keep talking my self in and out of doing it.
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Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:19 am » Post: #15 » Download Post

The splice takes 2 minutes. Why not ride to your local rolling road, get a run done without the splice and one after and compare the air fuel ratios of the two runs. It will most likely be no different. I did just the splice and the fueling is still spot on. If I did the airbox mod too I would get the fueling checked again.
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