Hi I will be moving from Tokyo to LA soon and am hoping to take my baby with me (street licensed MC21). Does anyone have experience with good shipping companies and knowledge of keeping an NSR (at least for track use)? I'm a bit in the dark on it and would hate to have to sell her.
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Thanks,
Roman

You could try ISICAR.com they ship worldwide and are in Tokyo.

Dux.

Thanks, I contacted them but they said no. Their reply was:

"its illegal to import not EPA/DOT road bikes. You stand the risk of the bike destroyed by USA customs or return to Japan at your expense."

Not exactly what I wanted to hear. So it is illegal to even import an NSR into the states?

Hi Roman:

Asian Tigers did the shipping and customs clearance from Japan & Hong Kong into North America for me in the past with no issues.

http://www.asiantigers-mobility.com/japan/home.aspx


Jason
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lamfactor wrote:Hi Roman:

Asian Tigers did the shipping and customs clearance from Japan & Hong Kong into North America for me in the past with no issues.

http://www.asiantigers-mobility.com/japan/home.aspx


Jason

I forgot to mention, the reason I used Asian Tigers is they took care of my actual relocation as well as an Ex Pat in asian (sounds like you are in the same situation).

So it made sense for me to have them take care of the bikes as well.
They are pretty big in Asia and do corporate relocation/ residence setup so are familiar with bike and automobiles, and probably partners in North America to take care of things on this end.

Everything went to a bonded warehouse and I didn't have to do anything.
They even took care of the translations of the Japanese owner registrations / title etc.


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perfect, thanks for the info I will contact them

DUX wrote:You could try ISICAR.com they ship worldwide and are in Tokyo.

Dux.

Errrrr no they are not - might have an address in Tokyo though !

For simplest entry bike has to be over 25yrs old then they are exempt from regulations.

Newer bikes can be taken in as " Track use only " but road electrics have to be gone and it's a good idea to shove number boards on it too.

If there is a company who knows how to slip them in complete , use them.

Canada is your next easiest option and take a trip to collect and cross the border on it.

MM!

PS. If you have service buddies I have heard they are allowed to import one vehicle with no questions asked.
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Errr maybe they are like that lost African tribe that kept jumping up and down in the long grass to see where they were.

Integral Solutions International Co, Ltd,

Kamishakuji-39-22-103,

Nerima Ku, TOKYO 177-0044

Japan.

Tel: +81 3 3928 0935. ISI@ISICAR.COM

As its Japanese I accept I could have misread it.

Dux.

Hmmm call me dude, 08023838453, and we will get that bitch crated up and gone

Get some race plastics to camouflage it, when are you leaving and where in Japan are you? If you are SOFA personnel there is a whole bunch of tricks we can use.

Don't waste your time with those stupid shipping companies, most of them have no idea what they doing

DUX wrote:Errr maybe they are like that lost African tribe that kept jumping up and down in the long grass to see where they were.

Integral Solutions International Co, Ltd,

Kamishakuji-39-22-103,

Nerima Ku, TOKYO 177-0044

Japan.

Tel: +81 3 3928 0935. ISI@ISICAR.COM

As its Japanese I accept I could have misread it.

Dux.

Yeah, go into google maps and put that address in , then go to actual location shots and tell me how you crate and load containers there.

If you want to know there real location I know where their yard is , ah that's right - I live in Japan
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Aah I guess where their yard is initially doesn't matter as you have to deal with the office to sort out all the details, in that whether you live in Japan or not is irrelevant, procedures, paperwork, fees etc first, crating and delivery to their depot afterwards.

The man was looking for someone that was able to ship for him, I put forward Isicar's name as they told me they could ship anything anywhere, I know a UK agent who uses them a lot.

So no need to waste my time looking at Google maps and I do not profess to being all knowing, I just passed on info that I had in the hope it might help him.

It might be a bit of a risk to go anyway but the legal one, the repercussions could be disastrous to say the least.

One way would be to break the bike down and ship the frame-engine-wheels-forks etc separately as motorcycles spares, he would still have the problem of registering it though.

D.

DUX wrote:Aah I guess where their yard is initially doesn't matter as you have to deal with the office to sort out all the details, in that whether you live in Japan or not is irrelevant, procedures, paperwork, fees etc first, crating and delivery to their depot afterwards.

The man was looking for someone that was able to ship for him, I put forward Isicar's name as they told me they could ship anything anywhere, I know a UK agent who uses them a lot.

So no need to waste my time looking at Google maps and I do not profess to being all knowing, I just passed on info that I had in the hope it might help him.

It might be a bit of a risk to go anyway but the legal one, the repercussions could be disastrous to say the least.

One way would be to break the bike down and ship the frame-engine-wheels-forks etc separately as motorcycles spares, he would still have the problem of registering it though.

D.

Their Office is still at their yard not a back street garden ! I KNOW them !! No bloody guess work about it, end of.
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Roman250
Hello, have you had any luck with Asian-Tigers for shipping your bike ?

I have had a number of problems with shippers in Japan as they interpret the regulations rigidly and take recommendations as law.

BridgeMoto here import from Japan, they may have contacts or advice that might help.

WWW.BRIDGEMOTO.CO.UK spencer@bridgemoto.com

Good Luck.

D.

DUX wrote:Roman250
Hello, have you had any luck with Asian-Tigers for shipping your bike ?

I have had a number of problems with shippers in Japan as they interpret the regulations rigidly and take recommendations as law.

BridgeMoto here import from Japan, they may have contacts or advice that might help.

WWW.BRIDGEMOTO.CO.UK spencer@bridgemoto.com

Good Luck.

D.

i can only comment on my own experiences, and share.

Reflecting back when I was an expat in Japan, Asian Tigers indeed did take the regulations seriously indeed!....anybody who has actually worked in Japan or with Japanese firms (McDonalds or Top I-Banks) already knew this, the Japanese in general follow regulations and standard procedures to the letter and intent of the law. Rarely do they even bend the rules, for foreigners or even local Japanese...probably culture and society based.

Anyways, what I found with Asian Tigers is that they asked a lot of questions, because it was their job to get my stuff back into North America on time and budget. And of course since my firm was paid for my entire relocation, therefore Asian Tigers had long term relationship objectives with my company for future business and reputation to ensure my relo went smoothly (im sure there are thousands of relo & shipping companies out there from low cost to expensive).

They asked questions and requested documents (ownership / purchase slips / japan license registrations) to get the bikes out of the country.

And obviously their partners in North America asked them to provide the documents that they needed to get the bikes into the country.

Since Asian Tigers were paid to do the complete relo project (export of my stuff from Japan ship across the ocean and then import into the country), it is entirely their job to find out what is needed and act accordingly. If if impossible, they obviously had to disclose that to me before I left Japan!!!!

....how embarrassing would it be for a Japanese company where "face"/ creation of shame is everything - if those bikes arrived in the US and could not enter the country!!!

This was my experience.
As an expat, i had more important things to deal with (working and living my life !!!) to deal with the details such as importation and regulation bureaucracy between 2 different countries. Asian tigers were paid to provide and service, they did that. If based on the documentation and understanding of the law that they were not able to import, they would have informed me before taking responsibility on. However, if, if , if they did agree and confirm that they could ship to the US and then it didnt work out and bikes were left at customs at Long Beach or whatever port........the expectation is that they would cover those costs to replace the bikes and bear the costs of shipping them, its their job to know and advise!!!

Again im sure there are lots of companies like Asian Tiger that do Complete Turn Key Projects - I am satisfied with my experience.
Many have worked with independent importer and exporters with much success....and of course time invested.

I have also worked with RMD motors in Tokyo / California with much success from purchasing/ crating and importation.

Reflecting back, as an expat that needed to move not only my household goods, it only made sense to make the relocation of the bikes a complete turnkey project with the same shipping company....oddly enough my household goods and bikes left from separate ports of exit from Japan, apparently shipping motor vehicles out of Osaka is more seemless...but thats irrelevent...its the shipping company/exporter to worry about that!!!!


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Hello, yes that is how it should be, who are RMD I take it they have a website.

I have had a few issues over the regulations, one was over carb inlet rubbers, they told me there was oil and the smell of oil, hell I couldn't believe it, how much oil could there have been, I told them to wipe it clean bag it and send it, they did eventually after four or five e-mails to remind them to carry out like you said there obligations to me as a customer, I think there was a communications problem between the office and the warehouse, it seems there is some body down there with little initiative or a lack of wipes !!

I hope with your help the guy with the bike manages to get his bike back to the states.

I didn't realize that there were so many ex-pats in Japan.

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