I wanted to get some expansion chambers for the MC28
So put up a request on here to see if anyone new where to get some.
Got referred to Jap performance ok all good so far.
Had a look on the site, yep found what I want priced at £330 or so
So just sent a few questions about the said item
All good

Now they have gone up to £430 WTF
Looked on TYGA site and they still list them at the £330 but I guess I would have to pay a load of duty if I got them from them
Not happy

You could always get some Jolly Motos from Stan Stephens for £500

Apparently TYGA reduced its discount to distributors recently to try and (appear to) remain competitive in the marketplace. Bad business decision in my book as it could cause contempt for the brand... exactly as this thread has shown.

It makes the prices on their website look misleading in my opinion, and makes the distributors look like they are the ones inflating the prices. Not good. No-one likes increasing their prices, but it has to be done sometimes. TYGA should have enough confidence in their name and brand to price accordingly. No reason why they can't increase prices to consumers in line with inflated production/shipping costs and keep the dealer discounts.

Penalising the dealers but keeping the prices on their website low, is the best way to go if they want to go back to the old days of only dealing direct with end-users. Too many people will take the gamble on not having to pay import duties and tax on one-off orders from Thailand and the dealers will stop stocking the brand. More work for TYGA, and probably less sales.
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Well I don’t mind a bit of a rise now and then but a 30% odd hike is a bit OTT in my opinion.
I did not know that you could get the jolly moto items from Stan
But I will approach him now that I do.
The reason I was given for the increase was that the metal is in short supply?
I don’t believe it.
I am in no rush to buy I have had the bike over 9 years.
Shame as if they had remained at the original price I would be fitting them up as I would have ordered.
O well

I always order direct from TYGA. My "sample motorcycle racing parts " usually get through customs ok.

Cut out the middle man.

Keep up the good work Matt and Paul.
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Yes, but there is/was also a growing network of distributors around the world that are prepared to hold local stock. There's benefits in both modes of purchase. Stock already in your home country is usually delivered promptly and definitely without added charges other than postage though.

I agree, it's great going to source, but we all need middle-men. Some companies won't sell direct at all though, so you'd be stuck without the dealers who are prepared to invest in quantities of stock. If the cutting of dealer discounts is indeed the reason for the price increase, it's underhanded in my opinion because it makes TYGA direct look cheap and the dealers as a rip-off, which I don't think is the right way to go about it. If I've been told wrong though, then I apologise.
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I spoke to Gavin at Jap4 a few weeks ago, he said there was a price increase coming through on TYGA pipes due to the cost of the stainless steel increasing, Steel in general has been increasing in all industries for the last few years. Wonder if TYGA just have not updated their website yet?
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Andy wrote:Yes, but there is/was also a growing network of distributors around the world that are prepared to hold local stock. There's benefits in both modes of purchase. Stock already in your home country is usually delivered promptly and definitely without added charges other than postage though.

I agree, it's great going to source, but we all need middle-men. Some companies won't sell direct at all though, so you'd be stuck without the dealers who are prepared to invest in quantities of stock. If the cutting of dealer discounts is indeed the reason for the price increase, it's underhanded in my opinion because it makes TYGA direct look cheap and the dealers as a rip-off, which I don't think is the right way to go about it. If I've been told wrong though, then I apologise.

Well as of right now you can look for yourself and see MC28 Expansion chambers on the TYGA website for £330 and then on the Jap performance website for £430
What got me though is that pipes for some other bikes have not gone up?
And I felt it strange how the price went up just after I had enquired. What ever has happened I am now looking else where

Again yes I can cope with a hike because of material costs but
£330 too £430? That’s some increase

Maybe Jap4 had the incorrect price on the site?!

The price for basic pipes and alloy silencers from TYGA's site is actually £408.97 with standard EMS shipping. Regardless of what anyone tells you, there is a definite chance of additional duties on that price, and Parcelforce will also charge you an additional £16 "admin fee" if you do get lumbered by UK customs.

Yes, Jap4 will make £21 + dealer discount on that deal, but the pipes are local, and there are definitely NO additional charges. Jap4 also has additional overheads that quickly eat up those margins. Also, to ge the dealer discounts, a certain level of stock is most likely needed to be maintained.

If customs does take a bite, work on 21% of the declared value + shipping (it should be 17.5% + 10%, but it generally gets charged at the lower rate), + Parcelforce's £16. Remember too, that the goods will only be insured to the declared value should something go wrong.
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Its £328.38
http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=72_80_129&products_id=518

Not looking for end cans also

for the Equivalent deal of what you quoted Andy its
"MC21/28 exhaust chambers
side by side £430
with aluminium cans £470"
And another £10 for post


But yes im well aware that the duty would be a pain in the bum
Now in fairness to the guys at Jap performance he did offer me a set of the GP item for the old price but I dot like the lay out of them from TYGA

So I will go Jolly Moto

I don’t believe that anyone is being under hand about anything
I just don’t like the fact the price has gone up so much
I wanted to try a dealer in Europe but he does not have a web site

£328.38... but you still have to get them to the UK! That's £65 via EMS (nearly £100 via DHL), unless you have someone to carry them for you.
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So it looks as if Jap performance were doing well to supply them in the past for £330?
Still a shame they had to go up

Extremely well I would say.
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I forgot to say, Jolly's look crap too, and I believe they aren't available in stainless steel.

Either from a dealer or direct, stainless TYGA's at £330~£430 are an absolute bargain compared to my Ethos pipes! Think yourself lucky... they cost me close to £1000 twelve years ago when there was no other option but to buy from Japan. They were declared at full value, and Customs hit me for an additional £160-odd quid when they arrived!
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Maybe I should jump in here and clarify things. Our policy has always been to offer the best product at the most affordable price that we can achieve. until recently, we have had no price increases for over a year. The last time was December 2006 when we were forced to change our default currency on the store to pounds from dollars because the dollar was sinking from 40 Baht to the dollar to 35. With pounds, we were at 68-69 and stable for a while, though customers paying in US dollars still suffered. However, the last six months have seen weakness with the pound and now it is down to 62. Clearly we can't absorb this kind of loss indefinitely and after waiting, hoping the trend would reverse (even a coup didn't help!) we have no choice but to raise our prices again across the board. For customers with currencies such as the Australian dollar and the Euro which have been rising against the pound our product was discounted every time we made a exchange rate update on our website. You always get winners and losers but obviously only the losers complain.

In addition to the above, there has been hyper inflation in all commodities, some blame the Chinese, some speculators who have nowhere else to put their money at the moment. The reality is that metals have increased anything from 50% upwards recently. The quick thinkers among you will have noticed that if the local currency is stronger then the imported material should be cheaper; that's the theory. Now go tell that to the aluminium and steel importers and dealer and see if they agree while demand is so high...This increase in material costs is passed on to us and we can not absorb this indefinitely either.

I hope the above explains the need for price rises in general. Now specifics.

The issue of the difference between our website prices and local prices is one which we have had to address for years. Our shipping costs are high in relation to the goods and this is anavoidable. Add import tax to some regions and our prices were already quite high and we are aware of that and don't want to raise them further. We don't have distributors in all territories so until we do, we need to keep our website prices keen.

We did narrow our dealer margin but only by a few percent and far less than we had been absorbing up to then. If split between the distributor reducing their margin and passing the rest on to the end user, the difference is hardly noticeable. (about the same as monthly fluctuations in prices on our website in other currencies caused by foreign exchange differences for example) I am frankly surprised that it is even being discussed and actually is supposed to be confidential in any case! However, seeing as it is public, I would like to make the point that it is up to all of us who have an interest in Tyga products, namely our suppliers, us and the distributors to all chip in and reduce costs so that you, the end user, can get good value for your money.

Finally, at the first opportunity, we'll bring our prices down but I wouldn't hold your breath seeing as the rate in USD was at 31.5 this morning and at the lowest it has been since the economic crash of 1997.